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Mail List Discussion: Management in the Curriculum (Encore)

Steve Wooldridge
CRISTAL-ED LISTSERV Coordinator
School of Information and Library Studies
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1092 USA
swooldri@umich.edu

New Topic: Management in the Curriculum (Encore)

We have come once again to the end of a two-week discussion period on the CRISTAL-ED electronic dicusssion group. Please join me in thanking Pauline Cochrane for leading the discussion on "Global Information Systems."

We now turn to a reprise of the topic of management, led by Marion Paris, a longtime observer of the library management scene. She is an associate professor at the School of Library and Information Studies, the University of Alabama. Professor Paris is a member of ALA's LAMA and the Library Management Division of SLA. Also, this semester is chairing a review of the management component of her own program's MLIS curriculum.

Please welcome Professor Paris and join us in the renewal of the discussion of education for management.

Marion Paris
Associate Professor
School of Library and Information Studies
The University of Alabama
MPARIS@UA1VM.UA.EDU

Management in the Library Curriculum Reprise

Some introductory remarks:

Contributors to the last autumn's discussion, "Management in the MLS Curriculum," politely agreed that management skills are more important than ever, although eventually I realized that we were probably preaching to the choir about it.

What has actually changed, in 1996, about the way library management has always been taught -- or not taught? What do we really mean, for example by "communication skills," and "people skills?" Rather late in the second week of the discussion it occurred to me that a reference librarian or information broker may be able to get away with a less-than-perfect 30-item database search; and no one may ever know that a cataloger has assigned the wrong call number to the spine of a book; and it probably won't make much difference in either case. A library manager or department head can't fudge the figures, or get away with shoddy personnel practices, or hide for very long from reality in his or her office because management is something our constituents understand. When managers blow it, people know it!

How then, can we justify continuing to turn out graduates who are technically quite competent (I use the work 'technically' in its broadest sense) but managerially unaware; and who, in some cases, remain so for the duration of their careers? An estimated eight out of ten "tales from the real world" I hear from former students involve management debacles, not technical ones.

Is there anyone out there willing to defend the opposing view? Lurkers, let us hear from you.

I look forward to a spirited reprise of the management discussion.

Drew Racine
General Libraries
P.O. Box P
University of Texas
Austin, TX 78713-8916
Voice: (512) 495-4350
Fax: (512) 495-4347
D.RACINE@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU

It is always risky to speak from relative ignorance. (Nonetheless) It seems to me that management courses in library schools are often taught by adjunct faculty members (especially summer courses) who are managers at some level. (That last sentence is the one that comes from only a small sampling and may not be as generalizable as I make it seem.) Judging from personal experience (in library school) and hearing about others' experiences, I would say that they quality of instruction by these practitioners is spotty at best. The same goes for faculty members (though I am relying on hearsay here). I have always wondered why library schools teach management courses at all.

I cannot imagine a library school that is not located on a campus that has a school of business or public administration. These schools hire specialists in management to teach their courses in management. Of course, not all professors (or instructors) in business schools are the world's best teachers either, but there should be a better chance of getting better management courses in schools designed to teach management than in library schools which are designed to teach just about everything (it seems) and who have instructors who are not, generally speaking, management specialists. So send the students to experts to learn management: If a real expert exists in the library school, fine, but if not, don't bring in a practitioner who might not have the skills to be an effective instructor, send the students to the experts.

I received a master's degree in public administration and can say unequivocally that the mangement courses I took there were much better than those (the two) I received in library school. The other thing about that public adminstration school that is relevant here is that when they require statistics, they send their students to the math department for stat courses. They may be in stat courses for non-math-majors, but they are taught by experts.

The trend for library schools seems to be more of this kind of flexibility--students can take more courses outside the school for specialties such as statistics, management, computer science, etc. I always advise students to take the best instructors they can for the subjects they need regardless of which school offers the best instructor. Management is too important to have poor grounding.

Charles Curran
N400019@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU

Drew Racine delivers a thoughtful opinion. Some of it makes sense; some of it needs to be considered from another point of view.

What makes sense is the advice to students: "Get the best instructors."

What needs inspected a bit is the implied suggestion that management is management. That's substantially true. But there are differences between "business" management and library "business" management. I do not speak on behalf of either/or; I speak on behalf of both.

Send LIS students to some computer science depts and they will learn about computer innards and the wonderfulness of digitalization. But LISers need to learn about the practice of information transfer, and the origin, behavior and use of information. That's our field. We also have something to contribute to the management of profit and non-profit information agencies that is of little interest to BAers.

Drew's points are not wrong. They need to be addressed. The issue is broader and a bit more complex than his posting suggests.

Boris Raymond
Semi-retired Adjunct Professor
Sociology Department
Dalhousie University
BRAYMOND@ac.dal.ca

I heartily agree with those who have expressed the view that education for librarianship requires a strong management component.

During the 17 years that I was teaching the management (org. behavior) course at Dalhousie, the course was cross-listed with the introductory course in the School of Business Administration, the textbooks were the same, and so were many of the assignments, especially in matters of personnel management, finance, and planning. We also went out of our way to encourage our students to take other M.B.A. courses such as personnel administration, as well as courses in city management from the M.P.A. people.

For me this was so much a matter of course, that I am a bit amazed that the issue would even be raised. But...

Ben Speller
School of Library and Information Sciences
North Carolina Central University
Durham, North Carolina 27707
speller@nccu.edu

I do not want to generalize either, but most faculty members teaching management courses have education in business management. In fact the faculty at our school, both regular and adjunct have education in "B" schools and public administration programs.

The adjuncts have both the Master of Library Science and the Master of Public Administration. The other faculty member holds an MBA and one has courses in business administration beyond the MBA.

We have students from the Master of Public Administration program taking courses in our school when they have an overload, especially for our human relations class which is considered one of the best in the area because of the reputation of the adjunct faculty member teaching the class.

We even require that faculty teaching administration course by type of library environment hold educational credentials in the areas.

The public library (public administration), the academic library (higher education administration), special (depends on area taken), school (educational administration and curriculum in addition to being certified as a school media coordinator).

I do not think that we are the exception. If we are, then we really do have a problem.

We do not train student to deal with specific situations but try to educate (learning experiences) them to deal with a ever changing environment. We emphasize critical thinking and problem solving. Sometime, I think that our efforts fall very short because when I hear what we did not learn in library school, I realize that some of the things listed were not a reality at the time the sayers went to library school, or that could have been dealt with through reading and critical thinking, assuming that secondary, and undergraduate education had been appropriate.

Steve Wooldridge
CRISTAL-ED LISTSERV Coordinator
School of Information and Library Studies
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1092 USA
swooldri@umich.edu

Calendar of Topics for CRISTAL-ED Discussion

Here is a calendar of forthcoming discussion topics for CRISTAL-ED through May 25.

February 18-March 2
Management in the Curriculum, redux with Marion Paris as guest discussion leader.

March 3-16
Transforming the Traditional to the New Age, with Ling Hwey Jeng as guest discussion leader.

March 17-30
Connections to Businesses, with Anna Noakes as guest discussion leader.

March 31-April 13
Training, with Diane Nahl as guest discussion leader.

April 14-27
Implementing the ALCTS Educational Policy Statement, with Bob Warwick, ALCTS Education Committee as the guest discussion leader.

April 28-May 11
Librarians Helping Readers in Digital Artifact Shift, with Paul Doty as guest discussion leader.

May 12-25
Reinventing Archival Education, with Elizabeth Yakel and Margaret Hedstrom as guest discussion leaders.

Heath M Rezabek
GSLIS Master's Candidate
University of Texas at Austin
Technical Staff Assistant
Perry-Castaneda Library EIC
hrezabek@gslis.utexas.edu

>I do not want to generalize either, but most faculty members teaching management courses have education in business management.

Are there programs whose Management faculty have been steeped in MIS specifically? The links between LIS/IS and MIS should presumably be solid...

Don Beagle
Head of Main Library
Charleston County Library
Charleston, SC
beagled@ccl.charleston.lib.sc.us

One management program which lib/info graduate schools might want to use as a model is the Institute of Government at UNC-Chapel Hill. Public officials from local government across North Carolina are offered certification programs in city and county administration. These are a series of weekend sessions typically lasting, with some interruptions, for a semester or more. I did the county adminstration sequence while working as a county library director in N.C.

The effectiveness of this program is its mix of management theory and practice, designed for working officials "on the job." It's format encourages the interaction of managers from many departments of local government, from social services to fire and rescue to libraries. The institute includes programs for county managers and commissioners, as well as other elected officials. I learned a lot about the special problems of other departments, and tried to raise awareness of library issues and problems. The institute's home page is reached at http://ncinfo.iog.unc.edu/.

Another possibility (probably already being tried somewhere) is to work with state library associations to offer seminars featuring library managers, and perhaps give students the opportunity to sit in as observers on meetings of library directors.

iskoch@showme.missouri.edu

Heath M. Rezabek asks, "Are there programs whose management faculty have been steeped in MIS specifically? The links between LIS/IS and MIS should presumably be solid..." in response to Ben Speller's comments that "most faculty members teaching management courses have education in business management."

My background includes an undergraduate degree in management science, and while I have taught an MLS-directed management course in the past, that required course at the University of Missouri-Columbia is currently offered by a colleague whose experience includes being director of a public library. His experiences have been generalized beyond the public library setting to include all types of libraries. I note that the faculty of UM-C have recently voted to support choices in the required mangement course, between this generalized offering and one pertaining specifically to school libraries.

My academic experiences include both a management and a management information systems focus. The MIS perspective (in my experience) is one of focus on corporate information for decision making in support of profit motives, quite different from that of the nonprofit institution. LIS viewpoints on management stem from more holistic considerations of information and information technology. To that extent, they are oil and water.

Whether links between LIS and MIS are solid or not depends on levels of campus cooperation and related interdisciplinary considerations. On our campus, we do not enjoy an overall symbiotic relationship with MIS, primarily because that emphasis is part of the School of Accountancy. Courses at the graduate level in management and MIS require a specific level of accounting, which most students in LIS do not have. Thus our MLS students are hindered from taking such coursework. My own experiences as a student were quite different. At Case Western Reserve University (where no LIS program currently exists) faculty in the School of Management were given appointments in the then School of Library and Information Science. As SLIS students, we enjoyed the opportunity to take courses in management information systems, systems analysis, information requirements analysis, and so forth. I only hope that other programs currently support such cross pollination of course offerings and students, as was done at CWRU in the 1970s.

Marion Paris
MPARIS@UA1VM.UA.EDU

Management Redux -- Additional Questions for CRISTAL-ED

Thanks to all of you who have contributed your thoughts to "Management Redux" thus far. Chuck Curran reminded us that MIS focuses on the innards of machine; and although managing technology is an important component of what our graduates do, they must also manage people and operate service businesses. Thanks to Ben Speller for his posting explaining the way N.C. Central's management education component is structured. And to Boris Raymond, the fact that we're having t his discussion at all is an indication that management education is not a given these days.

Educators, what kinds of feedback do you receive from your graduates? Do you administer exit questionnaires or conduct exit interviews?

Has anyone done any longitudinal monitoring lately, to learn how your graduates' management preparation holds up over time? Do you make management a required course? If your program does not require a management course, do you incorporate management instruction into the curriculum in other ways? If so, how? Into what courses?

Would anyone care to defend the opposing view, that management instruction should not be required?

To those readers who are either faculty in, or graduates of, two-year programs, how does management instruction fit into what you do?

Would anyone care to share additional pointers and tips?

Ben Speller
SLIS
NCCU
Durham, North Carolina
speller@nccu.edu

Your experience at Case Western was what I had in mind. I do however think that a little corporate mentality is not too bad if the good elements are migrated to the not-for-profit organization. My education in business on the corporate side has been very valuable in dealing with the accounting mentality in the Financial Affairs Divisions of both the university and the legislative work staffs.

William Arthur Liebi
Academic Librarian
Stadt- und Universitaetsbibliothek Bern
CH-3000 Bern 7 Switzerland
Voice: +41 +31 320 32 259
Fax: +41 +31 320 32 99
liebi@stub.unibe.ch

Let me make a few remarks on three aspects of the topic which I consider being important:

Integration of Management and LIS Perspectives

The branch to be taught is "management of libraries or information sites." It consists of (1) management and (2) library and information science. It should be presented -- this is the crucial point -- in an integrated fashion.

Teachers of library management are expected to have a double qualification (1) as managers and (2) as library and information specialists. Above all, teachers need the capability to combine both professional directions in their teaching.

High Teaching Level, Specificity

It does not matter whether library management is taught within LIS departments or outside, but the level of the management course for LIS students has to be as high as that for future managers. At the same time, the education has to satisfy the specific requirements of LIS students.

Links to Management Practice

For LIS faculty members which hold an additional degree in business administration as well as for owners of a degree in management or business administration with sound knowledge in the field of library and information science, some professional experience within the field of library management as director, head of department etc. can approve the teaching quality.

For students, it would be useful to work on case studies (on a theoretical and/or a practical basis): developing management projects or executing evaluations for library and information settings.

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