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The Internet Public Library


Aired April 11 and 12, 1998

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This is Internet On The Air, I'm Todd Mundt. The Internet is great for finding information, and lots of it. But will the World Wide Web ever replace your neighborhood public library? Details in a moment.

Funding Credit: Internet On The Air is a production of the University of Michigan School of Information and Michigan radio, made possible by a grant from the W.K. Kellogg Foundation.

Many of us grew up using libraries that had a card catalogue and those paper index cards in sliding drawers that helped you find a book or other publication. Today, card catalogues are all but obsolete, as they have been replaced by computer terminals. Public libraries also offer Internet access and services. This raises the question of whether the brick and mortar library will ever go the way of the card catalogue and be replaced by an on-line substitute.

Students at the University of Michigan School of Information have been involved in a project to determine what a public library might look like if it existed only on the Internet. The Internet Public Library maintains a collection of web sites by adapting traditional library techniques for selection, evaluation and organization. It also offers services like an e-mail reference desk and a digital story time. Since the Internet Public Library began three years ago, it has received more than 7 million visits from people in 135 countries.

Joe Janes is director of the Internet Public Library. He says it's a good place to learn about certain topics, like popular culture, and he says it also serves as an incubator for new approaches, such as web-based exhibits of local collections. But Janes says even though the Internet Public Library has attracted a lot of visitors, he doubts that public libraries ever will switch to a completely on-line model. One of the main obstacles for wider development of virtual resource centers is that the funding sources for traditional libraries--usually property taxes--cannot be easily applied to an on-line service.

To learn more about the Internet Public Library and to listen to an interview with Joe Janes, visit our web site at www.iota.org. For Internet On The Air, I'm Todd Mundt.


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"I'm optimistic because the idea is a very powerful one and the word 'library' is enormously powerful. It has centuries of history in people's minds and there's a good feeling, an aura about it, and we've taken that word very seriously and we've respected that word greatly and everything we've done has been in the spirit of librarianship. I think taking that seriously has made that us as successful as we are today. And if we are continue doing that then I think the idea will thrive...and become a very important part of this emerging information environment."
- Joe Janes on "the future of the Internet Public Library" at the time of its 3rd Anniversary in March 1998.

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The Interview


Use the RealAudio Player to listen in as IOTA talks with Joe Janes, Director of the Internet Public Library, about some of the lessons he has learned running a completely Web-based library and what the IPL's plans are for the future.

This IOTA interview took place in March 1998.

The Future of Libraries and Librarians

Q. How does operating in the purely digital world compare with dealing in a hybrid world of print and digital resources, as many libraries do today?
"I think it's a lot easier to operate in the purely digital world...We don't have to worry about the legacy of print...there are a lot of advantage to that, there are a lot of disadvantages. The primary one is that the wealth of resources that we are used to as librarians in the print world simply isn't available on the Web..."
Q. How do you see the skill sets of librarians adapting to other environments?
"What we always have thought of as librarianship...organization of information, a focus on the user, a focus on the service that you can provide to the user... is of value in many places. As the digital information world becomes more important part of people's daily lives, then its important to have that skill set centrally involved in the evolution of that infrastructure...and those people are called librarians."
Q. What are some of the lessons you've learned can be applied by librarians in other settings?
"We've learned some things about answering reference questions using network based resources -- where that works and where it doesn't it really depends on the nature of the questions ...we've learned some things about design...another thing I would emphasize for librarians in other settings is that almost every library has some really interesting local collection of its own and there's probably someone else whose interested in that...and it isn't on the 'Net because it hasn't been put up there yet and that's an opportunity..."
Q. What kinds of models have the Internet Public Library provided for other libraries?
"...There are libraries that have consciously adopted our model and then there are some that have been influence by it and those libraries have put together interesting resources and some of them end up back in our collection..."
Q. How much has the Internet Public Library been influenced by similar developments on the Web?
"...As we've gone on over the last three years we've certainly adapted and adopted as the Net has changed, but in large part the IPL today is very strongly flavored by the IPL as it was at the time we began."

The IPL Class Experience

Q. If you were starting the IPL now, what kinds of things would you be looking at to be innovative on the Web?
"The question of being innovative is important. If you're not cool on the Net you can be easily overlooked and we are challenged by that because we are also committed to being easy to use..."
Q. Could you tell us about some of the IPL's alumni success stories?
"One of the better examples is Bob Summers who did POTUS [Presidents of the United States] based purely on his own interest in the Presidency...he is now is working as a Web Master for a business in Seattle that manages YachtWorld.com....there are IPL people doing things all over now and that's because the skill set translates..."
Q. If you were starting the class now, are there ways you would teach it differently based on your IPL experience?
"I would ask the same question but I would be more careful about things like ongoing support and business planning, but I wouldn't want that to choke off the creativity and the enthusiasm because I think those are important aspects...I think the basic idea: the name and the question and the incredible group of people would work...the details of it, the logistics of it I might handle differently, but I also have the feeling that was a unique experience..."

The Internet Public Library's Future

Q. What can you tell us about the IPL's future as you see it today?
"We've never had stability beyond about a six to nine month horizon...We've never lacked for ideas. We have perhaps lacked the idea that has been the right key in the right lock that would have given us the kind of stability that we have wanted...my feeling today is that I'm optimistic..."
Q. The Internet Public Library is still looking for the right funding model. What do you think that will be?
"One of the challenges we've always faced is finding that mechanism for support. And the right mechanism is partnership..."



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Last Updated September 21, 1998